A short video presentation by Scottish Doctor David Mickel suggesting the potential cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and Fibromyalgia. Dr Mickel has designed a treatment called Mickel Therapy - the success of this treatment is spreading worldwide. See www.mickeltherapy.com for more details.
Duration : 0:10:52
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
If polio virus and …
If polio virus and other enteroviruses are present then there is no diagnosis of exclusion. So these condiions would have different diagnosis if this is the case.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Has this guy not …
Has this guy not looked into how polio and non-polio enteroviruses affects the brain (along with the HPA axis?) Of course the hypothalamus is affected, along with everything else in the body and the brain. How is this going to help with the heart and vascular issues?
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Two points: Firstly …
Two points: Firstly you are not qualified to comment on what Mickel Therapy treats or how it works. Secondly the terms psychogenic and psychosomatic are inherently wrong. These conditions are physical and not psychologically generated. This is why Mickel Therapy is not a form of psychological treatment.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
We are glad you are …
We are glad you are now well. We bwould also point out that the definitive diagnosis of exclusion for ME means that your other conditions preclude a diagnosis of it. In other words, as things stand, a diagnosis of CFS, ME or Fibromyalgia should be given only when tests reveal no other condition. Of course we would argue that you could have more than one condition but the Medical bodies do not view things this way.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I didn’t hear a …
I didn’t hear a word he said I couldent take my eyes off him sexy little devil!.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
ps, one last thing, …
ps, one last thing, I know what I’m talking about: “By attainment of the truth whilst alive, I have achieved immortality and conquered death”..opinions are just specks of dust on the table of life, and I understand yours but now it’s limitations
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Mickel method can …
Mickel method can only treat minor, ‘psychosomatic’ types of ME..there is an element of psychogenic influence (psychogenic is the word doctors mean when they use ‘psychosomatic’, thickos) but you can’t bring the dead back to life as much as you can’t cure a severely lead, say, poisoned person with any talk/hypothalamitis crap..there a 101 and one different avenues to getting ME, mental and physical, or an interaction of both and you cult guys don’t do the truth justice..
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
so mytyrsi, …
so mytyrsi, beginning to understanding the Law of Interacting but INdependent body mind factors? I had ME as a result of a dead thyroid gland, you telling me the MIckel Method can re-grow dead tissue now? Because doing that will just confirm what a cult you are part of and how your faith has little rational mooring. what about toxic poisoning, immune system suppression caused by this can cause ME in farmers, say, Mickel method cannot detoxify physically poisoning..
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I had ME for 10 …
I had ME for 10 years, severely and chronically..it was in part due to a damaged thyroid gland,had strong radiation treatment on my neck for a cancerous growth as a baby - destroyed much of my thryoid..Mickel method cant re-grow a dead thryoid gland. MEs caused by a 101 interacting factors and you can’t reduce it all down to hypothalamitis..that is as ludricous as saying it’s ‘all serotonin deficiency’..I am cured now from a whollistic approach, THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLITT AND NEVER WILL BE..
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
This is a …
This is a misunderstanding. We cannot comment on RT or LP but MT is certainly not a form of psychological intervention.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Unfortunately much …
Unfortunately much of this is not accurate.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Yes we would concur …
Yes we would concur that there is dishonesty here which is why we choose not to comment. People who have undertaken the treatments only know for sure where integrity exists. The MT treatment is firstly about understanding primary e-motions and their effect on the hypothalamus then how to use this information to correct the cellular dysfunction.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Length of illness …
Length of illness or slow onset have not been shown to influence recovery using MT.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
The virus symptoms …
The virus symptoms are at best an effect and not a cause so ye we have found that successful application of Mickel Therapy makes those symptoms go too.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
That is not correct …
That is not correct. We Can only speak for Mickel Therapy but it uses no NLP or other psychological tools. This is why it is successful when compared to CBT etc.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
you know what i …
you know what i wanted to ask was if you have ‘post viral fatigue syndrome’, if you can cure the hypothalumus problem with the therapy then do the symptoms from the virus disapear aswell? or will you always have the viral symptoms?
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
m.e is for real …
m.e is for real when i left school at 16 i had it for 2 years,then at 18 i decided to get a JOB and strangley it disapeared,lazy s get off your ing arses and stop being so ing lazy,m.e is a state of mind most people that have it are fat and depressed..
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
No problem, I …
No problem, I wonder if they fell out because of ego with the “ownership” of the concept of hypothalimitis and applying it to cfs/me?
Dr Mickel says he taught him the idea of the hypothalamus going into overdrive. However, Dr Eaton claims it was nearly all based on the original manual he wrote at a seminar in 2002 that Dr Mickel had also attended
Someone being dishonest?
It all seems to be about getting conscious control of the hypothalamus and releasing endorphins
Expensive, but may help
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Thanks lee18402
Thanks lee18402
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Dr Eaton developed …
Dr Eaton developed RT between 96-2002 and gives credit to Dr Ernest Rossi for his ideas of the hypothalamus creating symptom states in the body.Bodymind
Dr Mickel was a student of Dr Eaton from 99 until they fell out in 2004
After this Dr Mickel carried on practicing RT under the name Mickel Reverse Therapy a further two years
More recently he has improvised his treatment to work with the energy matrix from Steve Rother, a New Age theorist
MT is based on vibrational medicine/Quantum physics
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
What is the …
What is the difference between the difference this and reverse therapy please?
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Mickel Therapy, …
Mickel Therapy, Reverse Therapy, and Lightning Process all use the ideas of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) that is a technique used to help change negative thoughts and behaviour patterns. It is all deriving from NLP that was created in the 1970s
It is mastering your own psychology and perceptions to deal with a very negative day to day physical condition that is the reality of CFS/ME
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I still have NO …
I still have NO CLUE what Mickel Therpay is. I read all the posts and searched the website for an answer as to what
this therapy entails and did not find a clear explanation
of it. Is it a big secret that you won’t know until you pay
to find out? If so then that seems rather manipulative.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Thank you for your …
Thank you for your enquiry. MT does not restrict the type of CFS cases it treats. As long as the person has a confirmed diagnosis to exclude other pathologies then he/she should be confident that applying MT will be successful for them. If you have any further questions then please contact us and DR Mickel will answer you himself from a medical perspective.
Thank you
October 4th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
thanx 4 the …
thanx 4 the fantastic video! It certainly makes a lot of sense to me & fits with my own experience (18 yrs with CFS & related conditions) & with a lot of recent theoretical work in neurology & Affect theory. I’m wondering though if you’ve had consistent success with people who have had a long slow complicated onset of their CFS (compounded by other factors), or does it work mainly with people who can identify a fairly sudden change from being healthy to being chronically fatigued & unwell?