A short video presentation by Scottish Doctor David Mickel suggesting the potential cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and Fibromyalgia. Dr Mickel has designed a treatment called Mickel Therapy - the success of this treatment is spreading worldwide. See www.mickeltherapy.com for more details.
Duration : 0:10:52
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
There are many …
There are many routes to this illness, and all include some form of hypothalamic dysfunction but this does not necessarily mean that this is the origin of all symptoms (the recent info on diastolic heart issues explains much in my and many other cases; see Cheney’s three hour video for more info.)
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Except that ME was …
Except that ME was originally defined by the enteroviral origin (from 1934 to 1969 when officially defined,) although it is now being found that there are more viruses involved in modern ME/CFS; whether as trigger or direct cause. It is now known that of the population infected by parvovirus b19, a small number of folks have genetic disposition for receptors for b19 and the resulting cytokine cascade mimics ME/CFS in every way.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
So, Olympic …
So, Olympic athletes who get sick with this illness are just lazy. Even though the disease usually flattens elite athletes just as much as the ordinary person. Explain how people like me with extremely high GPAs and who train 25 hours per week on a mountain bike before getting sick are lazy. Explain how being lazy kept me from sleeping a single night in over 10 years (until I got on pain medications, which by blocking the alpha/delta wave sleep anomaly caused by the microseizure allowed sleep.)
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Lazy?!?! I’m the …
Lazy?!?! I’m the last person in the world to be lazy along with the rest of the folks here. The cardinal symptom is not fatigue, it’s post exertional fatigue. Meaning that when you do more, you feel worse instead of the other way around like it should occur. You might want to look into the diastolic heart and vascular issues that are being discovered with ME/CFS; there are very good reasons why we are limited in our activity levels and it has nothing to do with laziness. Ignorant scum.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
You’re a , …
You’re a , you know that?
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
The real reason …
The real reason your tired is that you have forgotten what its like to be 18. Check out my vids here they are free, and they work in 1 night. I promise. its just an exercise…
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
cfs yea right.. …
cfs yea right.. ing hole … your just ing lazy!
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
If polio virus and …
If polio virus and other enteroviruses are present then there is no diagnosis of exclusion. So these condiions would have different diagnosis if this is the case.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Has this guy not …
Has this guy not looked into how polio and non-polio enteroviruses affects the brain (along with the HPA axis?) Of course the hypothalamus is affected, along with everything else in the body and the brain. How is this going to help with the heart and vascular issues?
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Two points: Firstly …
Two points: Firstly you are not qualified to comment on what Mickel Therapy treats or how it works. Secondly the terms psychogenic and psychosomatic are inherently wrong. These conditions are physical and not psychologically generated. This is why Mickel Therapy is not a form of psychological treatment.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
We are glad you are …
We are glad you are now well. We bwould also point out that the definitive diagnosis of exclusion for ME means that your other conditions preclude a diagnosis of it. In other words, as things stand, a diagnosis of CFS, ME or Fibromyalgia should be given only when tests reveal no other condition. Of course we would argue that you could have more than one condition but the Medical bodies do not view things this way.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
I didn’t hear a …
I didn’t hear a word he said I couldent take my eyes off him sexy little devil!.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
ps, one last thing, …
ps, one last thing, I know what I’m talking about: “By attainment of the truth whilst alive, I have achieved immortality and conquered death”..opinions are just specks of dust on the table of life, and I understand yours but now it’s limitations
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Mickel method can …
Mickel method can only treat minor, ‘psychosomatic’ types of ME..there is an element of psychogenic influence (psychogenic is the word doctors mean when they use ‘psychosomatic’, thickos) but you can’t bring the dead back to life as much as you can’t cure a severely lead, say, poisoned person with any talk/hypothalamitis crap..there a 101 and one different avenues to getting ME, mental and physical, or an interaction of both and you cult guys don’t do the truth justice..
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
so mytyrsi, …
so mytyrsi, beginning to understanding the Law of Interacting but INdependent body mind factors? I had ME as a result of a dead thyroid gland, you telling me the MIckel Method can re-grow dead tissue now? Because doing that will just confirm what a cult you are part of and how your faith has little rational mooring. what about toxic poisoning, immune system suppression caused by this can cause ME in farmers, say, Mickel method cannot detoxify physically poisoning..
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
I had ME for 10 …
I had ME for 10 years, severely and chronically..it was in part due to a damaged thyroid gland,had strong radiation treatment on my neck for a cancerous growth as a baby - destroyed much of my thryoid..Mickel method cant re-grow a dead thryoid gland. MEs caused by a 101 interacting factors and you can’t reduce it all down to hypothalamitis..that is as ludricous as saying it’s ‘all serotonin deficiency’..I am cured now from a whollistic approach, THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLITT AND NEVER WILL BE..
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
This is a …
This is a misunderstanding. We cannot comment on RT or LP but MT is certainly not a form of psychological intervention.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Unfortunately much …
Unfortunately much of this is not accurate.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Yes we would concur …
Yes we would concur that there is dishonesty here which is why we choose not to comment. People who have undertaken the treatments only know for sure where integrity exists. The MT treatment is firstly about understanding primary e-motions and their effect on the hypothalamus then how to use this information to correct the cellular dysfunction.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Length of illness …
Length of illness or slow onset have not been shown to influence recovery using MT.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
The virus symptoms …
The virus symptoms are at best an effect and not a cause so ye we have found that successful application of Mickel Therapy makes those symptoms go too.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
That is not correct …
That is not correct. We Can only speak for Mickel Therapy but it uses no NLP or other psychological tools. This is why it is successful when compared to CBT etc.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
you know what i …
you know what i wanted to ask was if you have ‘post viral fatigue syndrome’, if you can cure the hypothalumus problem with the therapy then do the symptoms from the virus disapear aswell? or will you always have the viral symptoms?
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
m.e is for real …
m.e is for real when i left school at 16 i had it for 2 years,then at 18 i decided to get a JOB and strangley it disapeared,lazy s get off your ing arses and stop being so ing lazy,m.e is a state of mind most people that have it are fat and depressed..
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm
No problem, I …
No problem, I wonder if they fell out because of ego with the “ownership” of the concept of hypothalimitis and applying it to cfs/me?
Dr Mickel says he taught him the idea of the hypothalamus going into overdrive. However, Dr Eaton claims it was nearly all based on the original manual he wrote at a seminar in 2002 that Dr Mickel had also attended
Someone being dishonest?
It all seems to be about getting conscious control of the hypothalamus and releasing endorphins
Expensive, but may help